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A thread for info on Borg / +KJS / Christology

August 9, 2010

Someone, sometime, should write an article about the crisis of new non-Trinitarian religion in the Anglican Communion as we find in the teachings of Katharine Jefferts Schori and Marcus Borg. These two figures are, I believe, very much related in their manner of thinking on Christology. I’ve started this thread for any insights / research hints / virtual notecards people may wish to leave, for future work on this topic.

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23 comments

  1. Borg describes the emerging Christianity of his new paradigm as being primarily “transformative” (as opposed to involving beliefs and other such things – see his essay “The Emerging Christian Way”).

    +KJS’s sermon about the Haiti earthquake here seems to equate “resurrection” with “transformation” (i.e., in its most generic form), speaking about the “possibility of resurrection” (note – possibility, not actuality of resurrection – a very vague metaphorical use of resurrection which already moves away from one of its greatest significances – that it is an event which has already occurred, once, and for all time).

    In Spong’s debate with Bill Craig, he speaks of the importance of making the resurrection “accessible to all people” – supposedly for this reason, reducing it to something which is other than an event. Possible tie-in.


  2. http://www.episcopalchurch.org/79901_106562_ENG_HTM.htm – Easter 2009, at first sounds promising, but with ‘we continue to hope for its fullness’ it’s clear that ‘the resurrection’ is not the event of resurrection.

    If the page has moved, it can be found by googling “We see hints of that resurrection”


  3. This not on either +KJS or Borg, but +Griswold –

    “Broadly speaking, the Episcopal Church is in conflict with Scripture,” he said. “The only way to justify it is to say, well, Jesus talks about the Spirit guiding the church and guiding believers and bringing to their awareness things they cannot deal with yet. So one would have to say that the mind of Christ operative in the church over time . . . has led the church to in effect contradict the words of the Gospel.” (Philadelphia Inquirer Magazine 12/28/1997)”

    PI Mag is apparently the Sunday Insert of the PI

    from http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~lcrew/natter_old/msg00122.html
    Doug LeBlanc writes here – http://www.theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/32Ang/Epis/PB/GRISLEBL.HTM – that the ellipsis was in the original.


  4. “Those urgent voices continue to show up. More than 30 years ago, one of those leaders was at work in El Salvador. He raised his voice to challenge the oppression and murder going on in that nation in the 1970s. When a reporter asked him if he was afraid, he said, “I have often been threatened with death. I must tell you, as a Christian, I don’t believe in death without resurrection. If I am killed, I shall arise in the Salvadoran people.” And indeed, his assassination lent enormous energy to the quest for justice in that land. To this day, when the people of El Salvador gather, they claim his presence by calling his name and answering for him: Oscar Romero, presente. Oscar Romero, present!”

    http://cccdub.ie/index.php?/sermons/sermon-by-the-most-rev-katharine-jefferts-schori-sunday-30-january-2011.html


  5. Jesus & incarnation linked to Santa Claus – http://www.episcopalchurch.org/78703_80416_ENG_HTM.htm (HT William Witt, http://www.kendallharmon.net/t19/index.php/t19/article/34590/ )


  6. In http://www.kendallharmon.net/t19/index.php/t19/article/34590/#433402 +Rob Eaton (TEC, San Joaquin) provides a nice summary of the +KJS election


  7. Interview with Arkansas Democrat-Gazette transcript:
    (when asked about “afterlife”) –

    “The Judeo-Christian tradition has always said yes, there is resurrection. There is life after death.”

    http://pattigibbons.com/?p=136
    (also http://pattigibbons.com/its-about-context-katharine-jefferts-schori-speaks-to-ar-paper/)


  8. A Catholic writer comparing a rather dull and heretical writer to +KJS – comparison to +KJS being intended insultingly: http://insightscoop.typepad.com/2004/2009/07/the-dull-dissenting-americanism-of-kathleen-kennedy-townsend.html


  9. Something I appreciate a great deal from +KJS:
    From her book “The Heartbeat of God: Finding the Sacred in the Middle of Everything”
    (note: I have not read this book as a whole, nor am endorsing this book as a whole)
    p. 26: she takes note of the effect that womens’ ordination has had on the appreciation of lay womens’ ministry, and the historical importance of lay womens’ ministry.


  10. Also relevant, article by Bryan Owen from 2008 – “Episcopal Church website affirms orthodox Christology” – http://creedalchristian.blogspot.com/2008/07/episcopal-church-website-affirms.html – In 2008 TEC got a new website, and the section this section references, about Christianity in general – “A Basic Introduction to Christianity”, does seem to be very orthodox Christology.


  11. An article by Marcus Borg with some description of his Christology – this resonates strongly with what +KJS said in her Parabola interview about the divinity of Christ – http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=1638


  12. An article from Episcopal Café, December 6, 2008 –
    http://www.episcopalcafe.com/lead/blogs/a_conversation_with_marcus_bor.html

    Note the bold print where editor (Andrew Gerns) has bolded the part after “please keep in mind”:

    Please keep this in mind: These scholars are not dealing with spiritual communities. They are free, therefore, to pursue their scholarly work and publish and present their theories.

    This is at least one opinion within TEC that recognizes the difference between scholarship which is accepted as opinion, and taking such a scholar and making him a teacher of the church, thus commending such opinions to belief.

    Less than six months later – Borg was made Canon theologian, thus not only “dealing with” a spiritual community, but actually determining in a significant way the theology of a spiritual community – http://www.episcopalchurch.org/81803_112644_ENG_HTM.htm


  13. a thread mentioning the fundamentalist crisis in the PCUSA and the problem of polarization, and separation of gifts: http://anglicandownunder.blogspot.com/2011/06/revelation-and-reason.html


  14. This has nothing at all to do with Christology, I note it here simply to keep note of it – a pedophilia case in which +KJS took on someone for ordination who admitted a pedophilia incident: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/06/23/2971390/former-leader-of-boys-choir-at.html


  15. Many thanks to Bryan Owen+ for mentioning the +KJS Christology article and the comment of Bryden Black+ on it over at http://anglicandownunder.blogspot.com/2011/01/theology-of-primate-of-tec.html. I’m so thankful personally, but especially thankful that these issues are being discussed seriously.


  16. More thanks to Bryan Owen+ for pointing out his article:
    http://creedalchristian.blogspot.com/2009/08/presiding-bishop-whole-world-has-access.html
    (answering the question: “Is the only way to God through Jesus” – quote –

    Since the whole world already has access to God anyway, the Presiding Bishop concludes that special revelation is not so special, Jesus is not unique or necessary for salvation, and persons don’t have to respond to the Gospel to be saved.

    and also pointing out one on her notion of “incarnation”: http://catholicityandcovenant.blogspot.com/2011/01/incarnate-word-or-hills-and-forests.html


  17. A comment by Karen B on some Kendall Harmon articles on Christology: http://www.kendallharmon.net/t19/index.php/t19/article/16708/
    The Christology tag at Kendall Harmon’s site (not so straightforward in finding): http://www.kendallharmon.net/t19/index.php/t19/C266/

    VTS Dean and Bishop of Virginia argue that the HOB is highly creedal and “more conservative than one would think”: http://www.livingchurch.org/news/news-updates/2010/12/23/a-strongly-creedal-church


  18. Here is the Christology tag on Kendall’s old site (as archived by archive.org) – http://web.archive.org/web/20070209094821/http://titusonenine.classicalanglican.net/?cat=139


  19. Someone who could possibly do a good job at writing on the +KJS election issue – an ethics person who writes for episcopalcafe – http://blog.ethicalmusings.com/


  20. This is neither +KJS nor Borg – it’s a Spong article from a long time ago that I once used, but later “lost” – seems Beliefnet is having problems –
    http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/2001/03/The-Easter-Moment-What-Really-Happened.aspx?p=1

    currently, this seems to be missing the title & part of the text – an archive.org version contains it all – I believe this is part 2
    http://web.archive.org/web/20090516155311/http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/2001/03/The-Easter-Moment-What-Really-Happened.aspx?p=1

    the conclusion, part 3 is at: http://web.archive.org/web/20090723204907/http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/2001/04/The-Easter-Moment-Drawing-Conclusions.aspx

    part 1 is at: http://web.archive.org/web/20090517184712/http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/2001/04/Resurrection-Myth-Or-Reality.aspx


  21. “Panmetamorphicism and Abrahamic Religion” by Daniel Howard-Snyder: http://faculty.wwu.edu/howardd/panmetaphoricism.pdf

    Begins by referencing +KJS


  22. Ecclesiology, vol 6, issue 1 has an article which ends with a detailed description of +KJS’s investiture service, and a description of the new baptismal theology of TEC. The article is very positive in tone about these developments, it is by Colin Podmore.

    Unfortunately, only a short abstract is available for free online. But you might be able to find the journal issue in a seminary library, or access it if you have a general academic publications account with your library.

    http://booksandjournals.brillonline.com/content/journals/10.1163/174413609×12549868039767?crawler=true



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